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The HD Chronicles..Heidi Calls Members Weak December 4, 2008

Filed under: Kimkins — amyb1569 @ 8:26 am

Yesterday I blogged about how the holidays bring out the desire to lose weight.  I have been there and done that.  In fact I am feeling that push to drop a few right now.  Luckly for me I now know that the diet I did on Kimkins.con was nothing more then a form of starvation .  I dopped weight but also dropped my vitamin levels and developed a serious host of other medical issues.  These are well documented and one day may even help in proving just how dangerous kimkins.con diet was for many of us.   A special thank you for the brave ladies who shared there information with me..the truth will come out.   Until that can happen…I plan to make sure everyone at kimkins.con and everyone searching for a quick weight loss fix…see the real Heidi Diaz.  The real Heidi Diaz.
Kimmer wrote:
XXXX  didn’t mean to come down hard on anybody, but not everybody posting these days is our friend … some are looking for evidence, if you know what I mean. Maybe I’m wrong (wouldn’t be the first time) but eating pie, alcohol, etc and then asking the same day “when will I lose” is iffy.  Why they can not stick to plan is because they are weak.  You’re a smart lady and I’ll take my post out if you think it’s better. I’m not trying to embarrass anybody.

I would absolutely love to brag on your group! Give me the details and what not and we’ll get a thing going!!!

XXXX wrote:
Hey, if I had seen that list of foods I would have been a little tougher on her too. Did you know that this forum has lost over 2,000 pounds since we began in June? Also if you need some extra bragging rights for Kimkins, talk to Lynne who was nearly bound to her wheel chair when she first started and now is walking miles each week. And many of the girls here have had outstanding improvements in their health which has been verify by thier doctors. Cecile in Canada has lost tons of weight and she is 60 years old. We have a lot of girls in here who have amazing stories.

I dont mind at all you popping in and setting the record straight… Thanks.—————————————-
Kimmer wrote:
XXXX , sorry to barge in your challenge. Another member mentioned I should check “XXX” Fitday so I did. Don’t mean to be a pest.


The Heidi Diaz Chronicles.. December 3, 2008

Filed under: Kimkins — amyb1569 @ 8:01 pm

I have been doing a lot of thinking…imagine that.

 With the holidays approaching fast many ladies will feel that urge to lose some serious weigh. And that means searching for the quick fix.  I bet most of  us have been there.  In fact that is how I found Kimkins.con.  Looking for the magical fix.  When in fact all I ended up with was a diet plan and support that encouraged me to spend most days starving to lose weight. Oh and I almost forgot…some bills  for weekly ED therapy.

  Today I happen to look in my inbox and noticed just how many kimkins.con e-mails I have.  I call it the KK CYA folder.  It has some pretty interesting stuff in there.  I am shocked at the behind the scene stuff that people saved and sent me. 

  So I am thinking it might be a good time to share some of these goodies from time to time….just so we can all be reminded just who the real Heidi Diaz is..behind the scenes.

   If anyone would like to share your goodies with me..I open my blog for you to share the stage.  We will call it The Heidi Diaz Chronicles.. Heck it is for a good cause…


Heidi Heidi Heidi…I Wonder November 19, 2008

Filed under: Kimkins — amyb1569 @ 3:38 pm

 I wonder did your mama never teach you..that you better be careful..cause when you slapp someone they may very well slapp you back and VERY hard.  Of course I am talking about the lawsuit.

   I wonder do  you ever stop and think that you are making a bigger mess of things for yourself?   I wonder if you and your lawyer could be that scared of John Tidet ?  I have a gut feeling you THOUGHT he would be so stretched working on the slapp suit that he may stop breathing down your back.  Fat chance.

    I wonder if you thought this slapp suit would shut the “ducks” up?  Um….have you gotten your answer yet?  If not…just keep reading the blogs.

   I wonder if you really thought your snarky little comments to some of your so called Favorite Kimkins.con gals would stay quite ?  Ha..that is a joke.  Hey Heidi …here is a tid bit for of charge.  Trust no one but yourself.  Umm…humm…okay ..that is not even funny.  I take that back..  Just trust no one.

   I wonder if you really think the ladies over at Kimkins have one ounce of respect for you?  How could they?  You preach and preach what to eat, how to make it and yadda yadda.  And yet you will not post your pictures, or a weigh in ever.  You have yet to get close to goal.  And that is not a big deal but own up to it.  They do.  They tell the good and the bad. And you will not even post your stats in your own thread.  That is crazy and really sad for your ladies over there.

  I wonder what you are going to do when kimkins.con is shut down. 

   I wonder what you are going to do when all the dirty little secrets come out?

  I wonder what you are going to do when your money is gone paying your legal fees?  

 I wonder how you are going to deal with having to make a living the legal way..not on the internet…running some  alleged scams…Have you thought of what you may like to do for a legal living?

  And last I wonder what you are going to feel like when you have to pay me back my dang money for the filing fees for this silly slapp suite?  I think you know the address from the book.  Right?


The Real Heidi Diaz…Blinks First November 12, 2008

Filed under: Kimkins — amyb1569 @ 5:59 pm


The problem with lying is you usually always get caught.  I am sure Heidi Diaz thought she could pull off this FRAUD of weighing 118 pounds because no one knew who she was.  The problem is…when you tell one lie…you have to tell another…then another..and then another.  In Heidi’s case…it was the pictures.  Why in the world she posted so many pictures that looked nothing like the others I do not know.  But it was NOT a smart move.  Then again it was just one of many.   What I do not understand now is…NOW.  What is going on NOW.  I mean Heidi hands out Diet advice like she knows what she is talking about.  And maybe she thinks she does.  But the truth is….the proof is in the pudding…and in this case I think we are not talking Low Carb pudding.    Heidi , you are well at 300 pounds.  Are you doing your diet?  If so…maybe you need to run your fitday pass me.  Let me take a look at it..for some advice.   Would you care to post your link? Come on Heidi.  How can you tell the ladies to not eat this or that when by the looks of you a few months ago…you are not following your own advice? Have you lost any weight?  Post some updated pictures.  Help these ladies.  Show them you are willing to do what you ask of them.   This is not about you being heavy.  I was heavy also.  Most of us were.  If we were stick thin….we would not know what kimkins.con was all about…how I wish that were the case.  This is about you handing out advice on a subject you personally know nothing about.   I am glad I happen to see you at the store my friend shops at.  I am even more glad I posted them.  It is time for you to know you may hide but the TRUTH will always come out.  SOONER then Later.   YOu keep saying..I was at LCF giving out advice for free.  Heidi…You were at LCF lying for years…about who and what you are.  I swear I think you have started to belive you own lies.   The very fact that you are suing me..means you are  scared of me. and the truth..and you know what..GOOD…you blinked first.  Just like I knew you would.


Heidi..I Will Not Be Bullied November 5, 2008

Filed under: Kimkins — amyb1569 @ 7:00 pm
Dear Heidi…
I really need you to understand something..I know that in the past it has been hard for you to “get things”. So let me spell it out as clear as I can. .No matter what you say.  No matter what you do.  No matter how many rude  books you  send,  No matter how many nasty comments you post on my son’s medical update site.  No matter how many people you have email me or call me hours before my son’s operations.  No matter how many blogs you post accusing me of harming my son. And most important…No matter how much you pay your lawyer to sue me for telling the TRUTH.  I will NOT be bullied.  I will NOT ever be stopped from telling the simple truth about you. The difference between you and me ….TRUTH.
The truth is…Heidi lied and you got caught.  The truth is you keep lying and you keep getting caught. And the truth is based on your long history you most likely will not stop lying.  And as long as you run your web site or any diet web site I plan to keep my blog up and running.  You Heidi Diaz are mean and cruel.  You do nothing just by chance. It could be said that  someone like you  would sell there soul for a dime…. Is it worth it Heidi? 
So Heidi…Just  in case you did not know..Here is a  FYI  I got your summons today.  How ironic that my children answered the door since I am on bed rest from my surgery.  If I did not know better I would think it was planned for the “nice” man to tell my innocent children that he needed to see me because I had a paper   from a person name Diaz from CA who was suing me.  Gosh if I did not know better..seems like a Heidi touch.  That sounds snarky…but really seems like something you would enjoy happening.
Oh well..My kids know right from wrong.  Philip said as serious as can be…Oh mom is that the crazy lady who is mad cause she got caught lying about losing her weight?  Wow….Philip…so smart .  If it were only that simple.
 As moms it is important to teach our children not only right from wrong but to stand up for our rights.   And one thing my children know about me is….I would never lower myself to your standards..for any amount of money.  I dare ask..what would your children say if they were asked the same about you Heidi?
So on the advice of my kick butt lawyer….I have taken my pain medication .  Heck I might even try to pick a flower or two this week. 

A message from Gina/Dana October 26, 2008

Filed under: Kimkins — amyb1569 @ 6:09 pm
Today I have spent some time talking to a young lady who calls her self Dana/Gina.  There is a lot of background about this person and it can be found at my good buddies Prudentia’s blog ( and also at 2bigs’s blog ( 
  I am not sure what to think but I wanted to put my thoughts out here and maybe we can give Dana/Gina a chance to explain why she has behaved the way that she has.
   Gina came to me this morning in a email and told me who she is.  After we emailed back and forth a few times.  I told her that I had some serious concerns and asked her if we could talk on AIM.  She said yes and we talked for quite some time. It was a very blunt conversation and at times it was a little heated.  But in the end I hope the conversation was able to shed some truth on what has been going on.
  Am I sure the person I talked with today is Gina, Deb294er’s 20 year old daughter?  Honest?  No.  But I want her to be.  I want this person I spoke with today to be a young girl who got carried away and made a really big mistake.  Because if she is not Gina Deb294er’s 20 year old daughter then it was Deb294er and that is a really sick twisted game to be playing. 
  To start with….Here is the original email I got today from Gina
.     From: McdvdXXXXX@XXXX.XXXX
Date: 10/26/2008 12:56:56 PM
Subject: Gina here 
  I wrote to you before and I might have commented on your blog.  I was in support of you, but now I don’t know what to think.  You girls are so mean, all of you ganging up on me.  I am not Deborah, she is my mother. I left that last comment on 2bigs blog today, and that is all I am going to do.  She has not posted it yet.   My name is Gina. My last name is not Stevens.   I am 20.  I go to school and work in my mothers office on work study.  We have the same IP.  There is no mystery, and I never set out to hurt anyone. I tried to have some fun with 2big because she is so serious most of the time, and I thought she was a good person to have fun with.  I never thought it would go any further than her blog.  I never said much of anything except I liked Kimkins on other peoples blog. Only once or twice anyway.    I did say stuff about moles, because I know they are there.  It is easy to see that. Nobody ever talked to me in PM’s or anything at LCF. So no information was sent to Heidi.  It is very easy to find out anything and everything about Kimkins and Kimmer on the LCF site. I also know a lot because I read that FWK thread every day. It is fascinating.  My mother does Kimkins, I have seen the inside of the site before.   I have another screen name at LCF that I have used for a long time.  I am not going to tell anyone any information on it, because I still use it at least a few times a week.   I emailed you because I read the things on FWK thread that seemed hurtful to you ,and I thought that was bad too.  If you kept emails from then, you should have it.  I don’t know.  I have a new computer so I don’t have a copy of it. Does not matter anyway, you even wrote me back.   Now you are saying that my mom is me, and that is getting me in trouble with my family. I am done playing any games, and it is not fun talking to 2Big anymore.   Gina/Dana
  From: Amyb Date: 10/26/2008 1:04:04 PM
To: McdvdXXXX@XXXX.XXXXX Subject: Re: Gina here
  Okay…I want to belive you. And you know what.  I am not that mean person you keep saying that I am.   I am a nice person who has been used in all of this in more ways I care to mention by Heidi and her crew. I have no intentions to be used by you are your mom, or whoever you are. I am curious about something. If  I am going to reach my neck out here and  try trust you.  
   Tell  me…does your mom know know you are talking on the blogs?  Because If she does not and she finds out you may have a problem with her. Because she may have a issue with Heidi.  Do you understand  what I am saying?
  Also I am not sure your mom would be happy if you were talking to me because your mom can not stand me.  She has said some awful things about me.  Now I am not talking bad about your mom to you.  I am stating the facts.  The fact is your mom is very pro KK and I am very anti KK.
Would it be okay for me to help you clear this up today and post this email on my blog?  I can post this original email and anything else you would like to add.  You can have your say, your way, and clear the air.  This is your chance.
  I will go see if I can find that original email from you and that may help show your story is what you say it is.   Let me know your thoughts.  maybe with some honest talk from you..we canfigure out who you are in all of this.
  From: XXXX@XXXXX.XXXDate 10/26/2008 1:19:25 PM:
 Subject: Re: Gina here
   She knew I was commenting on the blogs at first and she told me to stop it.  I did stop it for awhile until I saw all the infighting on FWK.  I went to 2Bigs blog because she is the one I mostly talked to.  I went too far on that and I  know it. 
 I saw Derek being featured and then I saw his profile on FWK.  I thought that was not very nice too.    Now she knows I felt sorry for you and what happened, but she does not know I emailed you.  I will tell her though. 
 I am already in something deep right now.  she does not hate you.  She talked about you to me before.  I don’t think she understands everything that went on. I don’t really either, just what I saw on the thread.  I don’t know what bad things she said about you, but I can ask her. 
   I don’t really care if you post my email, but the XXXX is part of a family name and she will know it is me. I should probably tell her.  She is already mad at me for dragging her into the blog thing.   I just want this over with. I never thought it would leave her blog. Sorry.   Gina

After these emails I asked Gina if we could talk on Pm and we did.  I want to share part of the PM so  maybe we can try to understand where Gina is comming from…..Please remeber this ia a very raw conversation .


There are a few breaks in the PM that are taken off .  These were about her goals for weight loss and some very personal issues I as a mom will not post online in my blog.  But  the bases of the PM are here and you can see what was said.,  If you have any questions feel free to email me.


I chnaged her screen name to XXX because it is her last name…


:00 PM): I use this , hello Amy

AmyB159 (1:56:13 PM): Ok…

 AmyB159 (1:56:19 PM): Hey there

 XXXXXX (1:56:37 PM): I am sorry, I really am, but now I am scared

 AmyB159 (1:56:54 PM): well let’s talk and see if I can understand better

 XXXXXX (1:57:04 PM): ok
AmyB159 (1:57:08 PM): but I am going to tell you this up front

AmyB159 (1:57:17 PM): I do not really like you mom

 AmyB159 (1:57:19 PM): I am sorry but it is how I feel

 XXXXXX (1:57:25 PM): I know

 AmyB159 (1:57:29 PM): and if you are her and playing with me

 AmyB159 (1:57:33 PM): then that is your bad and it will all come out

 AmyB159 (1:57:43 PM): but if you are a young girl who has gone to far

 XXXXXX (1:57:45 PM): no, I am not

 AmyB159 (1:57:48 PM): then I am here to listen

 AmyB159 (1:57:55 PM): cause I am a mom and I care


 AmyB159 (1:58:00 PM): so I am trusting you for right now.

 AmyB159 (1:58:07 PM): so let’s see what we can do to get to the bottom of this

 XXXXXX (1:58:07 PM): look Amy, I made a mistake,  it went too far

AmyB159 (1:58:17 PM): you need to tell me everything ..all of it

AmyB159 (1:58:26 PM): if you want me to help you clear this up

 XXXXXXX (1:58:45 PM): ok, what do you want to know that I did not tell you


 AmyB159 (1:59:16 PM): well… did all of this get started?  I mean how and why?

 XXXXXXX(1:59:33 PM): the blog thing?

 AmyB159 (1:59:55 PM): my understanding is this started in Jan with 2big right?


 XXXXXXX (2:00:10 PM): yes, in January

 AmyB159 (2:00:23 PM): can you tell me why?

 XXXXXXXX (2:00:33 PM): my mom was saying that people in that thread were being mean to people who were still at kimkins

AmyB159 (2:00:51 PM): ok and

 XXXXXXXXX (2:00:52 PM): It started to defend those people

 XXXXXXXXXX (2:01:16 PM): but I thought I was a bad ass, its easy on the interent

 AmyB159 (2:01:34 PM): yes it is and that happens to many of us online

 XXXXXXXXX (2:01:47 PM): but then 2 big got my IP and that scared me

 XXXXXXXX (2:01:55 PM): so the lies started as to who I was

 AmyB159 (2:02:29 PM): Ok and then you went away for a while..right?

XXXXXXX (2:02:38 PM): yes, my mom told me to drop it

 XXXXXX (2:02:44 PM): stay off all blogs

 AmyB159 (2:03:56 PM): okay…what made you show back up?

 XXXXXX (2:04:19 PM): the infighting , I was again trying to be a badass

 XXXXXX (2:04:44 PM): then the other Amy put up dereks picture and profile

AmyB159 (2:04:53 PM): you kind of forgot about being scared and started back again, right? AmyB159 (2:05:00 PM): This is very important…

 XXXXXXX (2:05:00 PM): yes, it had been months  Some personal talk about why she felt protective about Derek..  

 Xxxxxxxx (2:05:48 PM): I am backing out of her blog

 AmyB159 (2:07:05 PM): Now you decided to get back involved.  You kind of forgot what it is like to be scared,right?

XXXXXXXX (2:07:15 PM): yes, i did forget

AmyB159 (2:07:22 PM): that is easy to do.


 AmyB159 (2:07:42 PM): Now tell me this..what does your mom know?

 AmyB159 (2:07:59 PM): because I can not imagine she is pleased with you

 XXXXXX (2:08:09 PM): she knows pretty much all of it now, except that  i am talking to you XXXXXXX (2:08:23 PM): no , she is mad

XXXXXXX (2:08:33 PM): for me going on the blogs m ostly

AmyB159 (2:09:22 PM): Ha..sorry I have to laugh..she would be really mad if she knew you were talking to me.

 AmyB159 (2:10:27 PM): I think what you have done is nothing that bad

AmyB159 (2:10:33 PM): you got carries away

AmyB159 (2:10:35 PM): we all have

 XXXXXXX (2:10:39 PM): yeah

AmyB159 (2:10:41 PM): me included

 XXXXXXXX (2:11:09 PM): ok, i know

 AmyB159 (2:11:13 PM): first…do you really know who I am

 AmyB159 (2:11:15 PM): I mean

 AmyB159 (2:11:21 PM): from my blog, and pics?

XXXXXXXX(2:11:25 PM): oh, yes

AmyB159 (2:11:28 PM): Ok

AmyB159 (2:11:38 PM): so you know I am not always sure of myself either, even as adults we still make mistakes.


AmyB159 (2:11:40 PM): right

 XXXXXXX (2:11:41 PM): i know you from another site too

 XXXXXX (2:11:44 PM): yes

AmyB159 (2:11:46 PM): Ok

 AmyB159 (2:11:47 PM): good

AmyB159 (2:11:59 PM): I think..the only way you  can end this and be done is this


AmyB159 (2:12:09 PM):  tell the truth all of it

 XXXXXX (2:12:16 PM): ok

 XXXXXXX(2:12:25 PM): but i am going to be in so deep here

AmyB159 (2:13:06 PM): deep with who..your mom?

 XXXXXX (2:13:10 PM): yes

AmyB159 (2:13:24 PM): that what you want me to call you?

AmyB159 (2:13:28 PM): Your mom knows

XXXXXXX (2:13:31 PM): gina is my real name

XXXXXXX (2:13:33 PM): ok

AmyB159 (2:13:35 PM): trust me

 XXXXXXX (2:13:37 PM): yes, she knows

 AmyB159 (2:13:37 PM): she knows

 XXXXXXXX(2:14:31 PM):  i always thought you were good, that is why your posts there scared me AmyB159 (2:14:43 PM): I thought you were your mom

AmyB159 (2:14:47 PM): and wanna know something

 XXXXXXXX (2:14:52 PM): i tried to be i guess

 AmyB159 (2:14:53 PM): I do not even know your mom

AmyB159 (2:14:57 PM): but

 AmyB159 (2:15:00 PM): I know Heidi

AmyB159 (2:15:06 PM): and she has been cruel to me


AmyB159 (2:15:09 PM): and my son

AmyB159 (2:15:16 PM): and that is Heidi

XXXXXXXX (2:15:23 PM): so you see something that i did not see, heidi

AmyB159 (2:15:32 PM): Heidi is awful

XXXXXXXX (2:15:34 PM): i think my mom does not really see it right

AmyB159 (2:15:37 PM): plain and simple

AmyB159 (2:15:43 PM): wanna know something

XXXXXXXX (2:15:46 PM): yes

AmyB159 (2:15:47 PM): this is honest

 AmyB159 (2:16:06 PM): I miss being at KK

AmyB159 (2:16:08 PM): I do

AmyB159 (2:16:16 PM): I miss feeling the rush I had there

 XXXXXXXX (2:16:23 PM): i think you said that before on fwk

AmyB159 (2:16:24 PM): I felt at home there

AmyB159 (2:16:34 PM): and I thought Heidi was real

XXXXXXXX (2:16:41 PM): that is howmy mom feels tol, she told me that

AmyB159 (2:16:44 PM): and when I saw she was heavy I did not care

AmyB159 (2:16:50 PM): I was heavy

AmyB159 (2:17:01 PM): I felt ugly

AmyB159 (2:17:12 PM): I could of been Heidi

AmyB159 (2:17:27 PM): but Gina she accused me of being respoible for my son’s illness AmyB159 (2:17:32 PM): did you know that?

AmyB159 (2:17:39 PM): That is fact

XXXXXXXX (2:17:39 PM): no, i didn’t

XXXXXXXX (2:17:57 PM): ok, i didnt know that was true

 AmyB159 (2:18:08 PM):  a blog up that said I had mental disorder  where I caused Philip’s medical issues AmyB159 (2:18:17 PM): My son who has fought to live

AmyB159 (2:18:30 PM): one day you will be a mom and you will know what that love feels like XXXXXXXX (2:18:31 PM): i know about your son, i read his site, i am sorry

AmyB159 (2:18:38 PM): and you know what

AmyB159 (2:18:46 PM): I feel sorry for your mom

XXXXXXXX (2:18:51 PM): that is why i emailed you the first time what?

AmyB159 (2:18:53 PM): because she is a lot like me

XXXXXXXX (2:18:54 PM): why

XXXXXXXX (2:18:57 PM): ok

AmyB159 (2:19:02 PM): she wants to belive in heidi

XXXXXXXX (2:19:06 PM): she does

AmyB159 (2:19:10 PM): I see your mom has lost a lot of weight

XXXXXXXX (2:19:15 PM): she has

AmyB159 (2:19:21 PM): I bet she is proud of herself

AmyB159 (2:19:24 PM): and she should be

AmyB159 (2:19:27 PM): but you know what


 XXXXXXXX (2:19:27 PM): she is happy, yes

AmyB159 (2:19:30 PM): YOUR MOM

AmyB159 (2:19:33 PM): lost that weight

AmyB159 (2:19:36 PM): not heidi

XXXXXXXXX (2:19:54 PM): after reading alot of what is said on that blog, i see it more yeah AmyB159 (2:19:58 PM): I have a feeling your mom and I could  be buddies on any other site XXXXXXXX (2:20:12 PM): probably,yes

AmyB159 (2:20:25 PM): but when your mom tells Heidi she wants to “beat me up” and then Heidi sends that to me

AmyB159 (2:20:35 PM): how can your mom think Heidi is anything but bad

AmyB159 (2:20:39 PM): see what I mean

AmyB159 (2:20:45 PM): this is not about your mom

 XXXXXXXX(2:20:48 PM): she said that?  i havent asked her yet

AmyB159 (2:21:01 PM): well Heidi said your mom said that…

AmyB159 (2:21:07 PM): and that is silly

AmyB159 (2:21:10 PM): but the point is

AmyB159 (2:21:19 PM): if your mom said it mad

AmyB159 (2:21:21 PM): so be it

AmyB159 (2:21:28 PM): but Heidi came to me with it

AmyB159 (2:21:35 PM): Heidi is like that

XXXXXXXX (2:21:35 PM): i cant see my mom saying that

AmyB159 (2:21:44 PM): well you know your mom..I do not

 XXXXXXXX (2:22:01 PM): did she say it or did heidi say it?

AmyB159 (2:22:16 PM): Heidi said your mom said it…

AmyB159 (2:22:18 PM): so see

AmyB159 (2:22:26 PM): I have no idea if your mom said it

AmyB159 (2:22:30 PM): BUT the point is

AmyB159 (2:22:34 PM): Heidi said she did

XXXXXXX (2:22:35 PM): what if she really didnt?  i want to ask her , ok

AmyB159 (2:22:44 PM): and your mom supports Heidi

 XXXXXXXX (2:22:48 PM): so heidi is using my mom?

AmyB159 (2:23:06 PM): Gina..I am open to talking to your mom anytime.


AmyB159 (2:23:20 PM): I am a nice person…unless someone lies and pretends to be someone else AmyB159 (2:23:40 PM): so…back to you..

XXXXXXXXX (2:23:47 PM): this is sort of scary to me.  would she really use my mom against me or anything? AmyB159 (2:23:54 PM): Ummm…yes

AmyB159 (2:23:59 PM): 100% yes

AmyB159 (2:24:12 PM): she sent me a book about a mom who tries to kill her son with faking medical illnesses

XXXXXXX (2:24:14 PM): i think i need to talk to her soon, i wish i never heard of kimkins AmyB159 (2:24:17 PM): Heidi is evil

XXXXXXXX (2:24:32 PM): is taht the book on your blog?

AmyB159 (2:24:34 PM): Gina..your mom is not going to want to hear what you know that AmyB159 (2:24:38 PM): yes it is..

AmyB159 (2:24:46 PM): do you have weight to lose?


AmyB159 (2:24:50 PM): just curious?

XXXXXXXX(2:24:53 PM): ok, i dont know what to say to her then,  I am very fat myself

XXXXX (2:24:59 PM): 258 now   WE talked some private diet talk here…That I took out…it had nothing to do with any of this.

AmyB159 (2:26:49 PM): now back to you

XXXXXXX (2:26:52 PM): yes, send me the link please, i hate being so heavy

AmyB159 (2:26:52 PM): your mom knows

AmyB159 (2:26:57 PM): the ducks know

XXXXXX (2:26:58 PM): yes, she knows


XXXXXXX (2:27:01 PM): yes

AmyB159 (2:27:02 PM): period

AmyB159 (2:27:08 PM): so lets fix this

XXXXXX (2:27:11 PM): ok

AmyB159 (2:27:12 PM): as well as we can

AmyB159 (2:27:18 PM): you write me a email ..

AmyB159 (2:27:23 PM): in depth

AmyB159 (2:27:27 PM): as long as you need to

AmyB159 (2:27:35 PM): explain from the beginning to end

AmyB159 (2:27:37 PM): all of it

XXXXXXX(2:27:43 PM): ok, beginning of jan?

AmyB159 (2:27:46 PM): how you felt  and why



AmyB159 (2:27:47 PM): yes

XXXXXX(2:27:49 PM): ok

AmyB159 (2:27:53 PM): and how it got out of hand

 XXXXXXX (2:28:11 PM): ok

AmyB159 (2:28:11 PM): all of it

AmyB159 (2:28:14 PM): come clean

AmyB159 (2:28:17 PM): ALL of it

XXXXXXX (2:28:20 PM): ok

AmyB159 (2:28:30 PM): because if more comes out afterwards then it will not work

AmyB159 (2:28:37 PM): BRB..Kids


AmyB159 (2:30:05 PM):  you  said you worry about your mom and KK

AmyB159 (2:30:13 PM): you need to  mention everything you spoke about here

XXXXXXX (2:30:15 PM): i really do actually

 AmyB159 (2:30:20 PM): then say that

XXXXXXXX (2:30:24 PM): she doesnt eat enogh

AmyB159 (2:30:32 PM): Then you need to say that to her

AmyB159 (2:30:40 PM): do you know my health is awful

AmyB159 (2:30:45 PM): I lost 95 pounds

XXXXXXX (2:30:47 PM): not really

XXXXXXX (2:30:58 PM): yes, i know you did great,

AmyB159 (2:31:08 PM): and struggle to not gain eating a apple

AmyB159 (2:32:20 PM): so…take a few minutes and email me …long..honest and in careful to not leave anything out or lie.

XXXXXX (2:32:43 PM): ok, yes

AmyB159 (2:32:49 PM): I am adding you to my aim

XXXXXX (2:33:06 PM): ok, you are making me feel better, thank you

AmyB159 (2:33:10 PM): now go get started

XXXXXXX (2:33:14 PM): ok, thank you

AmyB159 (2:33:18 PM): Gina..just tell the truth

AmyB159 (2:33:26 PM): go get started..I will watch for the email.

AmyB159 (2:33:32 PM): it will be okay..

XXXXXX (2:33:33 PM): i hopes so, i feel horrbile



XXXXXXX (2:33:37 PM): thank you, ill do it now

AmyB159 (2:33:44 PM): and if your mom wants to talk..I am a email away..

XXXXXX (2:34:02 PM): ok


    ——-Original Message——-   From: XXXXXXXXXXXX

Date: 10/26/2008 3:12:26 PM


Subject: I am Gina

  Amy,       I am going to tell you what I was thinking when I decided to become Dana.  I am not looking at any timelines, so I don’t know the dates.  It was January when I decided to go to some blogs because I had been reading the FWK threads for a long time, and I thought there was mean spirited stuff going on.  My mom does Kimkins, and she followed it sort of on LCF before joining the site.  I support my mom,( Deb294evr) in her weight loss efforts.  My mom loves Kimkins and likes Kimmer too.  I hear one side of the story, where she is very nice, then I go to the threads and she is being called the devil. I don’t understand.   I am 20 years old, my name is Gina and I am a college student.  I work at my college in work study at the same place my mother works.    We talk about the site, but I am not a member, I only want to support my mom.  So I go to the blogs and leave some bad ass messages as “Dana”.  I felt great getting my message out, which really isn’t my message, but what I hear from home. I also read some of the old ask Kimmer stuff and see that it didn’t seem so bad.  Then I ran into 2Big.  she looks up my IP and tells me I am working for some professor that I do not know.  I figure she might contact my job and get me into trouble, so I tell my Mom about it.  She tells me to get off the blogs and stop what I was doing.    I did stop that for a long time.  I then saw AmyB being talked about very hurtfully on the FWK threads that had to do with Kimmer doing things to her, and she showed some things on her blog that got my sympathy.  I decided to get my new screen name GinaStevens44 when I had decided Kimkins was maybe not so good. I posted in the FWK thread a few times about being in WW, and about some things about Kimmer, trying to blend in.  I really wanted to contact AmyB and I did.  I wrote her an email,and I think I commented in her blog, I don’t remember.  I did not tell my mom because she was still very pro KK, and still is.   I really did try WW but I was a failure, like in most diets I try.  I am still very fat. I am not afraid to say I am fat, because I am.  I have tried every diet, but on the internet you can be whatever you want to be.   After my WW failure, I tried Kimkins and failed at that.  I never joined the site, just went by what was in the LCF archives and what my mom was eating.  That kind of put me back into the pro KK frame of mind.    I read the FWK threads every day. I am fascinated with it.  I just did not understand why everyone was being attacked on the newsletter.  I saw Dee being attacked, and the other lady with thin hair.  Then Derek came along. I said this already, but he is very cute. I honestly am not in any way connected to Derek, ( wish) lol. Right as his profile comes on the FWK thread, I feel all badass again and head to 2Big’s blog, but she had not written anything about him, so I looked for the latest comments and went in there.    It got out of control.  I was being what I wanted to be, a successful dieter who was losing weight and eating what I consider Kimkins.  I wanted to stick up for Derek, but also for everyone who is on the site still.  My mom knew nothing of this until Prudentia blogged about her and I being the same person.  We are not.  She did find out though, after I did.  I had to tell her and she was angry.  I got scared when so many people started attacking me and my mom.  She did not do anything in there, she has not posted anywhere that I know of in a long time, but she was getting blamed for what I did.  I am afraid for her myself, she does not eat very much.  I think she is eating more healthy than some did, but I would starve on that.    Anyway, I had to come clean when the entire family got on to me.  I also got scared when Amy, who I think is a nice person, and trustworthy, started talking mean to me.  That is frightening when a bunch of people gang up on you. Especially when I am young and I will admit stupid in this. I did not start out trying to hurt anyone, only to support my mom. That is really all.  I got out of hand with my bad ass persona I had invented, and I am very very sorry I ever did that.  I am sorry that any words I said hurt anyone, I never ever thought it would leave 2Big’s blog.  Boy was I wrong.  I will never post on any blogs again, and I am thinking of leaving LCF and never reading those threads again.    That’s about it, I am confused and scared, and I hope everyone leaves me alone now.   Thanks, Gina  



In closing I want to say  a few things.  As a mom my heart felt a tug talking with Gina today on Aim.  I am not sure if I understand her or what she has done.  But I do know that the person I talked to seemed very scared .  I hope that she sat down with her mom today and had a long honest talk. 

Gina ..I meant what I said to you today about healthy weight loss.  I will follow through with what I offered to you.  I am all about a young girl losing weight the healthy way.  If I can help you with that vs you ever thinking of doing Kimkins.con, I am more then willing to help.


I understand that your desire with trying to help Derek and yes he is handsome.  But you work on getting yourself healthy and more confident and in wonderful shape and you will find your Derek.  I promise.


Gina..I want to believe you are not Deb294er.  I even felt myself starting to “get” your mom today after talking to you.  If you are not Gina the 20 year old daughter.  Then I tried my best and I feel good about reaching out to you.  So in my heart I did the right thing.


One last thing.  No matter how I feel about your mom and her relationship with Heidi Diaz.  You put her in a bad place.  I know things got out of hand but make this a lesson learned. 


And Deb294er.  I tried very hard to treat your daughter today the way I would want you to treat my daughter.  I did not post any personal info that would hurt embarrassed her or give away your last name.  I would appreciate if you would contact me and let me know that you know about this and that you indeed do have a daughter name Gina.  I am sure you want to clear this up also.






To Anonymous From California October 24, 2008

Filed under: Kimkins — amyb1569 @ 2:08 pm

A few weeks ago I received a package in the mail.  I did not think twice about the package as I threw it on the coach and ran out the door late for a MRI appt for Philip. Later that night My daughter Emily asked me if she could open the package and I told her sure.  I thought it was the charger for the computer that Best buys was sending us .  Emily came in with a shocked look on her face and said Mom why in the world would you order this book.  It looks so sad.  I looked up to see my 11 year old daughter holding a book called “Sickened: The Memoir of a Munchausen by Proxy Childhood”. For a split second I was confused as to what in the world she was talking about and then I was shocked.  I had no idea how in the world this book would of ended up at my house .  After telling Emily I was sure it was a mistake and I would send it back. We put the book away and went on about out evening.  Trust me that book was not far from my mind.  Come to find out the book was sent from California.  Mailed in a yellow envelope . The odd thing is the town I live on was misspelled just like I have seen it done before.  Hummm..  So I only know two people in California that live where the book was mailed from.  I called and asked my friend if by any odd chance she had sent it to me. She was offended that I even had to ask. While I knew she had not I still felt the need to just make sure.  Since there had been a certain someone who had accused me  Munchausen by Proxy concerning my son Philip.  I thought maybe by some slim chance my friend had found the book and wanted to send it to me to show me how crazy she thought the idea was.  Instead she thought I was crazy for even having to ask. So I spoke to Joh Tidet about it and he was as shocked as I was about it.  I think his words were…My gosh that is so sick. Yep, that is my thought too. So I guess this leads me to ask…why would someone even waste their time and money sending me that book?  But have no worries.  The book has not gone to waste.  I donated the book to the hospital library . If you really feel the need to send me something….I can think of better ways to spoil me with gifts…just ask..