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First Day Of Picking Flowers…. March 31, 2008

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Today has been a very long day . I spent all day dealing with some medical issues for my daughter. Imagine my surprise to come home and see so many e-mails and blog comments. It makes all of this so worth it. Thank You all for reading my blog and taking time to comment. I hope I can help in some small way in such a big battle. I thought this morning about what I had named my blog “picking flowers”. I love that there is a place for everyone in this fight to truth and health and common sense. Some are best at finding weeds, some pick the weeds, and my goal this week is like I said…to pick flowers. The flowers are the ones left at Kimkins that deep down are wanting a way out. And know what….it is working. I had three e-mails from ladies who are planning and have left Kimkins. You know who you are. But what you may not know….I am so excited for you. I know how hard it is to take that step. And you are stronger then me..you left on your own. I also wanted you to know I am here for all of you. I may not have all the answers..heck I seem to have no answers for myself some days…but I will listen and we can figure it out together. One thing we need to all be reminded of…we are not alone…there are many who have gone before us. And after talking with them….I know they want to help each of us.

Heather….I hope you do not mind me sharing this…but I think it shows just how special it is that you were willing to share your story with those who read my blog.

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Amy,

WOW! �That was extremely emotional for me to write. �I didn’t realize how many feelings I still had bottled up in me. �I feel a little vulnerable right now after sharing all that, but I know that you will treat me kindly! LOL
Heather.
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I had a few e-mails where there was a concern that I had been harsh with the ladies on the front page of Kimkins. I thought about that today and I do not agree. The ladies on the front page are suppose to represnt Kimkins. And for some of them they do just that.
Heidi Diaz…..My gosh…it does not take a genis to figure out that she is a fraud. I listened to her day after day…..feeling like I could never live up to her standards of losing and maintaining weight loss. I even had thoughts and attempts to do water or diet coke fast. Yes I know some will say how stupid that is…and yes I know…and I agree. But I bet I am not the only one.
Singinglass…what else can I say. She has not posted in her journal for 5 days and maybe that is a good thing. Yes she has posted the simple hey post . But nothing of importance. I know this is far fetched but makes me wonder. One of two things…either Heidi Diaz put Singinglass up to being a ” new LCF poster” or Singinglass has turned on Heidi. Now do I think that has happened. NOPE . Because Singinglass is a do whatever Heidi wants person. But know I wonder? How it makes Heidi feel knowing SL came and talked smack about Heidi. She spoke of Heidi being a drunk and many more not so nice things. Then again she talked smack about herself aslo. That is just plain weird. Either Heidi is furious or she told SL to do it. And who in their right mind tells someone to go and do that? Opps..did you catch that? IN THEIR RIGHT MIND….that is the answer right there.
Now LauraLa…Just to remind you of yesterday’s post in my blog.
Re:Laura’s Journey 8 Months, 2 Weeks ago
Good Morning….On a better note, I have lost 4 more lbs…doing K/E. I have been under 600 calories each day! I am very snatty though. Very Very nausea! I hope everyone is well. Im doing K/E all the way to Onederland~!
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Re:Laura’s Journey 7 Months, 4 Weeks ago
Happy Humpday Gals…….I think this Season with my cheerleading is going to push me to my limits. I worked out with the girls for an hour and this morning I was spitting mad when my scale read 197. To make matters worse I only had eggs yesterday, plain no nothing
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Laura’s Journey 7 Months, 3 Weeks ago
I am keeping my eating light and mostly K/E alot of chicken and shrimp. maybe a cup of lettuce here and there.
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Laura’s Journey 7 Months, 1 Week ago
Hi everyone,I was in the hospital since last Thursday. I havent felt well for months now, and we have the answers now why. I didnt have asthma, I was having congestive heart failure. They diagnosed me with having cardiomyopathy. I am devastated at this moment and now sure what my future holds. I keep saying why me? how could this happen to me?? Dont they know my daughter needs me? I will try to check back , Im exhausted at the moment and my head is spinning in many different directions. I hope all is well for everyone else here. I see everyones ticker is moving right along. Please pray for me and hope I can beat this terrible heart disease. ………
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From today…LauraLa wrote:
Okay Im still having alot of guilt and this is ridiculous already! Ive been back on track now two days and you would think I would get over it, huh? I will certainly think twice again before cheating. Did I say it was worth it? Not sure yet. Something so small really worries me because how will I ever be able to maintain? I am freaking out a bit , I just enjoy food so much that I cant imagine never ever being able to have carbs again. I will have to work on a plan because I enjoyed eating on Friday, Yes I said It, I ENJOYED the food. It was so damn good.It was kinda planned cheat if there is one. SO knowing that I even feel worse that I planned it. I wanted to wait until after my last docs appt so I didnt have to weigh in. Smart huh? SO then I did it………I hate this guilt feeling.

It is making me annalize how much I am addicted to carbs and how I will never be able to handle eating them later on. I thought about the food in my fridge and pantry all day yesterday, almost convincing myself to cheat some more!!!!! Sick, I know. Its just me and my relationship with food.

I wanted to fess up because even though Im on the cover page and everyone thinks it happened so easy for me, I want people to know that its not been easy for me, and I struggle with my food addiction every day. I am human and I have cheated. And I will probably have more cheats. I cant predict my eating habits, but I can try to control them.

I feel so much better knowing that I am not hiding and sharing with you that I am who I am and I too need support.

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This post from Laurala touched my heart and made me realise we all have more in common then we care to admit. My problem is….I know deep down what type of person LauraLa seems to be. When I read e-mails that are between people and they include talk about my son…It makes me so upset. It is a shame that I know what things LauraLa has said …Lies and more lies. It also should go to show..be careful who you talk to. Even out of group..when you send e-mails..things can come back to the wrong person..The person you are talking about. A lesson hard to learn.
I have a question….if a person stays on the front page after knowing what they know…does that mean they support who adn what Heidi Diaz is and stands for? Singinglass? Laurala? Are you willing to share that?
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As for some good news..Ladies are hearing the message. The flower Picking is going well…and I am not even close to done. With permission and the promise of not saying who this is…

Hi, Amy! Just wanted to drop by and say hello. I’ve been reading your blog and posting less and less at Kimkins. I’m leaving but kinda slowly. Remember when I left several months ago but went back b/c of XXX, you, and others that I consider my friends. Well, the more of your blog I read, the madder at Heidi I get. Attacking your son? That is the lowest!
Also, I’ve been lurking over at LCF, especially the Stillman (the most like KK, I know, I know, we’ve been brainwashed!) diet. It seems there are really nice people over there. Of course, I’ve always kept up with the FWK thread and applaud the ladies that have helped bring Heidi down. I well remember when they first started and we all thought they were just jealous of Heidi and her newfound celebrity status. I could just see that sweet little pic of her sitting on her patio that one of her little “foster boys” took.
When I first started KK in spring of 07 – just before the WW came out – I remember lurking for a while and reading Heidi’s replies to some of the women and thinking that she was so mean. But the way everyone loved her and idolized her, I thought, well, maybe I’m just too sensitive. Thank God, I have never talked to her or asked or anything and she probably doesn’t even know who I am. But I’ve used that as an excuse to stay there and talk to my friends on my two little challenges and my journal. But I am suppporting her by staying there, aren’t I? I can’t stand her especially now but by staying my actions are not lining up with my words. And I feel like a hypocrite.
So, where are you posting now regularly? I just don’t want to leave and have no weight loss support group. The last time I left and my group left with me – well they went back and I went back with them.
Little snipets of Heidi’s lies keep coming back to me. Remember when she would get on to people that were drinking cream in their coffee? “It’s just a warm milkshake and you need to stop drinking it.” Or, “you don’t need to exercise to lose weight. Just look at me, all I had to have was a tummy tuck and my face looks this young b/c of Retin-A.” And she is the same age as me and that pic was of a girl in her 20’s. I ordered the retin-A the next day from Mexico.
I never had the big hair loss but at one time my arms got so tired trying to blow dry my hair and I have saggy skin on my inner thighs b/c of the quick weight loss and no exercise at the time.
I am so sorry about this huge, long email, with all you have to do with your son and all, but needed to get this off my chest. I’m so sorry about the way you were treated over there.
Write back and let me know how you are doing when you have the chance.
You and your family are in my prayers.
XXXXX
And a follow up e-mail…with great news.
I have talked this over with my dh and he told me to leave KK immediately. He said I should have left a long time ago. But I made it clear to him that I was never there b/c of Heidi, but was there b/c of people like you. We all were like a family and I do believe that is why some of our old group is still there. When I first left several months ago and tried to warn people of Heidi’s scam I actually had people tell me that they didn’t want to hear it and I was just trying to make trouble so I just dropped it. But my conscience will no longer let me stay. It is so easy to pretent that everything is alright – never even looking at the front page. I would just go stright to my journal or to my challenge, talk about weight loss and log out.
So, yes, use whatever you want, but I want to try and warn my friends that are left so please don’t use my name for now.
Oh, yeah, and that “question of the day” that sock, Gary, does, well I did look at those the other day and only like 6 people had replied. My point is that I think a lot of people are still there not b/c they believe in or trust Heidi, they have just made friends for life that they don’t want to leave and like me, they use it as a forum to just talk about weight loss with their friends. And they don’t realize that although they don’t support Heidi at all, their actions are speaking louder than their words. I know cause I was one!
Holla back when you get a chance. I know you are one busy lady!
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So ladies….I would say today was a great day for picking flowers and planting them in a nicer place.

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31 Responses to “First Day Of Picking Flowers….”

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  3. bluesuederebel Says:

    One rose down … You’re hard work and compassion for others is paying off, Amy. I’m proud of you.

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  5. angel373 Says:

    Amy, I’m so proud of the work you are doing to help people leave KK. You are an angel. And I just want to say to Heather how much I admire her too. I am blessed to have you both as friends.

    For those leaving KK, or considering it. Please come to LCF and Camp, you are always welcome!

  6. mayberryfan Says:

    Amy,

    You are doing great things by reaching out to current Kk members and letting them know they will have support. All of Heidi Diaz’ support is as fake as her weightloss story. Anyone out there who is feeling foolish for falling for Kimmer’s story, don’t! Give yourself a break. She’s a professional con artist that fooled a lot of people. You CAN find a way to lose weight and be healthy. Amy and many others are around to offer support and help you.

    GREAT POST AMY!

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  11. barbarab2 Says:

    Amy, you are doing such a great job with your blog and getting people to realize they can leave KK and find a great support group elsewhere. Keep up the good work.

  12. ohyeahbabe Says:

    I’m so proud of you Amy, and of all the girls who are willing to HEAR you.
    OYB
    My blog: Kimorexia
    Check out Kimkins on Insider Exclusive!

  13. simpleannie Says:

    Such a shame, Amy. You were always so sweet.

    ” One of two things…either Heidi Diaz put Singinglass up to being a ” new LCF poster” or Singinglass has turned on Heidi. Now do I think that has happened. NOPE . Because Singinglass is a do whatever Heidi wants person. But know I wonder? How it makes Heidi feel knowing SL came and talked smack about Heidi. She spoke of Heidi being a drunk and many more not so nice things. Then again she talked smack about herself aslo. That is just plain weird. Either Heidi is furious or she told SL to do it. And who in their right mind tells someone to go and do that? Opps..did you catch that? IN THEIR RIGHT MIND….that is the answer right there.”

    I really can’t believe this is the same person that encouraged so many people to achieve their goals. I know that Heidi must have said some terrible things, but honey your a close second, doing the same if not worse. And bringing Singinglass down too, what has she ever done to you? You are not a good person.

  14. amyb1569 Says:

    You know..maybe you are the one who is a close second. I have been more then fair having your comments in my blog. I always said I wanted to allow the good and the bad. I am done with you. You said your peace. Now run back to KK and tell Heidi and SL you did a GREAT job. BUT Amy B is doing just fine.

  15. 2big4mysize Says:

    simpleannie

    did you miss it in the FWK topic on LCF? Singinglass created a fake account and said bad stuff about Kimmer in there bannable stuff if anybody else had said it, so you got to wonder if Kimmer knew SL did it or even told her to do it. Then she even said bad stuff about her own singing spots on her AOL website.

    Of course I’m sure SL has a reasonable explaination for how her computer was used to post those posts over several days without her knowledge much like Kimmer did when she claimed she wasn’t Heidi Diaz after the PI pics were posted, remember?

  16. BamaGal Says:

    simpleannie,

    Let me see if I’m understanding you correctly….

    On the one hand we have AmyB–who is a great devoted wife and mother and friend. Someone who was mentally abused by both Heidi AND Singinglass for months. And you have a problem with her FINALLY standing up for herself. Just because she has said in essence “I’m MAD as hell and I’m not gonna take it anymore”. Because of this you are calling HER mean.

    PULEEEEEZZZZ—

    I say it’s about DAMN time!!!

    It pisses me off to no end to see more and more people degrading themselves kissing up to Heidi for one. But mostly for feeling that their life is not worth diddly squat unless they are thin.

    I feel a blog post coming on……so I’ll leave it for now…..

    Before you even go there—yes the treatment AmyB has received from Heidi and all her minions is mental/psychological abuse.

    All of the Kimkins Survivors are victims of mental and psychological abuse. It is physical abuse too with dangerous diet..

    and to add this one last point….the ladies on the front page….

    do the words “accessory to fraud” not mean anything to you???

    you are helping Heidi sell a fraudulent site and you can be held libel…..think about that….

  17. mayberryfan Says:

    Bama,

    *APPLAUSE, APPLAUSE*

    I’ll have to give Simpleannie this much, she picked the right screen name, wouldn’t you say?

    Amyb,

    You have “truth” on your side! People always resort to personal attacks when the facts don’t support their arguments. Have you noticed? You keep up the good work! Many, many fine folks are behind you all the way!

  18. vernswifevickie Says:

    simpleannie….step away from the koolaid, slowly step away…..

  19. mrsmenopausal Says:

    simpleannie Says: Such a shame, Amy. You were always so sweet.
    …I really can’t believe this is the same person that encouraged so many people to achieve their goals. I know that Heidi must have said some terrible things, but honey your a close second, doing the same if not worse. And bringing Singinglass down too, what has she ever done to you? You are not a good person.

    You say you know that Heidi must have said some terrible things and that Amy is doing the same if not worse.

    Please explain to me how a woman who has been the victim of fraud and is speaking out about that fraud is in the same league as (or as you claim, worse than) a con artist who lied, created false testimonials, who claiming to be a 118 pounds actually weighed over 300 pounds, charged for a diet membership to a diet based on those lies and fraud, admitted to these lies and fraud in not one but TWO LEGAL DEPOSITIONs, tgave out dangerous diet advice, threatened Amy about speaking about her hair loss and other health issues, and stripped the lifetime memberships from anyone who dared to speak out about health concerns or question the fraud being exposed not only on Kimkins but on any site.

    You have come here and spoken out. Have you given Heidi her “what for?” I’m guessing you haven’t because speaking your mind at Kimkins is not so easy, is it? It’s not allowed. Speaking your mind at Kimkins results in the loss of your life-time membership. BAM! Membership gone. No concern for the member who has lost her paid access, support, and challenge friends. No concern for the member experiencing health issues. Only concern for what benefits Heidi and her income.

    So, until you find the courage and self-respect to stand up against Heidi’s wrongs and Singinglass’s deceptions, perhaps you ought to give Amy the credit due her for no longer swallowing the abuse and remaining silent in order to protect those who conned her and who are conning YOU.

    How is it that you justify to yourself defending those who have taken such great advantage of you and others while admonishing the voice of someone who is dealing with life after Kimkins in an honest and forthright manner?

    Perhaps you should also consider your less than sweet words here before pointing the “you’re a big ol’ meanie” finger at Amy.
    JMO

    My blog: Weighing The Facts

  20. bluesuederebel Says:

    You beat me to it, Mayberry.

    Amy, you are doing the right thing. This is your blog. You can say and feel how you want to.

  21. angel373 Says:

    simpleannie….are you for reals?

    Seriously??

    If Amyb is mean, well…then I’m the queen of England.

    (FYI, I’m NOT the queen of England)

    I’m simply flabbergasted that ANYONE can defend SL and blast Amy. She is simply one of the nicest people I’ve ever met.

    Wake up and smell the coffee honey!

    Are you dizzy from the lack of calories?? Please eat.

  22. bluesuederebel Says:

    Maybe, Simpleannie is Simple — uh, I mean — SingingLass.

  23. barbarab2 Says:

    simpleannie,

    Yes, Amy was always so sweet – AND STILL IS! She is trying to help get people away from that dangerous diet and scam artist, all the while trying to cope with medical issues with her children. SingingLass has ignored any attempt at “rescuing” her and has become just another Heidi puppet. As you apparently are — or are you a sock?

  24. ohyeahbabe Says:

    Simpleannie needs a sammich. She’s clearly light headed and confused.

  25. simpleannie Says:

    I read Amy’s comment and was ok with not posting again, and then I read further. OMG you guys are all like that. I won’t post anymore, but I really didn’t mean to totally offend everyone and am sorry if I did, if you knew, Amy who I really was, and no I’m not singinglass, you would be surprised, but I am not the “simple” person that everyone thinks I am, I am a wonderful person who I guess didn’t understand where all of the hateful stuff came from and I will be the first to say that I am sure I don’t know the whole story, I saw a couple of little slams back and fourth between Kimmer and you Amy, but I guess there must have been some behind the forum things that were said that we couldn’t see. But like it has been said this is YOUR blog and you can post as you wish, someone had posted a link to this on the site and that is why I checked it out, I liked you and wanted to know where you had gone, I asked but no one would respond, so when the link came across, I wanted to check it out.
    Good luck to you Amy, and please don’t slam me anymore, I will stay away.

  26. jeanniebaitinger Says:

    Amy, I hope you were able to trace the IP of simpleannie. Did you notice how close “annie” is to my name, Je”annie”?! I am sure glad you knew it wasn’t me. This is one of 3 people, Heidi, Singinglass or…you know. I suspect by the name simpleannie it is the you know.

  27. […] Mad as Hell and I’m NOT Gonna Take it ANYMORE Posted on April 2, 2008 by BamaGal AmyB has been reaching out to the former Kimkins members and what does she get for her trouble??? Some troll popping in to comment on her […]

  28. honeybeesblog Says:

    Amy,
    It is just another mind game being played. One control a person can try to use over another is guilt. I mean many a religion was built on the stuff.
    I am thinking it isn’t SL, she uses sympathy as her tool of manipulation in most of her attempts of swaying people from their mission. Forever the “Victim” she is….We all remember the alleged threatening phone calls, right?
    But maybe she has advanced with her training of manipulation while at kimkins. ::shrug::

    I would say take it as a sign that you are doing the right thing, because someone is trying to make you stop.

    Amy, you are a good person. You know the person you are, so do your friends and family. They are what count. You also know where your heart is in all of this.
    No one can tell you otherwise.
    They may try, but they can’t.

    Hold your head high.

  29. 2big4mysize Says:

    hey Amy you do know when you go flower picking sometimes there are varmits in amoung the flowers and you got to watchout cause when you scare them picking those weeds they can try to get big and mean to scare you off but if you stand up to them they will run away and you can get back to picking those flowers.

    and should any insects attack you just need to spray those annoying things with some repellant and keep picking flowers.

    And when you get an infestation of either you call out the exterminators to handle them for you. Looks like you got lots of exterminators standing by so just keep picking.

  30. thetruthinhiding Says:

    Amy,
    We all have a part to play here. Please if you want to, let yourself be content picking flowers, being nice, and being yourself. There are plenty of exterminators out here willing to do the dirty work, so you don’t have to. Keep that chin up. -T

  31. honeybeesblog Says:

    simpleannie- “…[…]…but I am not the “simple” person that everyone thinks I am, I am a wonderful person who I guess didn’t understand where all of the hateful stuff came from…[…]…. But like it has been said this is YOUR blog and you can post as you wish, someone had posted a link to this on the site and that is why I checked it out, I liked you and wanted to know where you had gone, I asked but no one would respond, so when the link came across, I wanted to check it out.
    Good luck to you Amy, and please don’t slam me anymore, I will stay away”

    HoneyBee- Um….Simpleannie I am not sure who you are trying to convince with your comment of ” OMG you guys are all like that. I won’t post anymore, but I really didn’t mean to totally offend everyone and am sorry if I did..” I mean was that done to convince yourself or others of how your original comment read?

    And “we” are like that Simpleannie…That is if by “all like that” -you mean that we will come to the aid of a person who is being told how horrible they are for speaking out against Heidi in their blog.
    You didn’t mean to offend anyone you say simepleannie? WTH? You said this
    SimpleAnnie-“I know that Heidi must have said some terrible things, but honey your a close second, doing the same if not worse. And bringing Singinglass down too, what has she ever done to you? You are not a good person.”

    So by not trying to offend you told Amy she was not a good person and equated her to Heidi Diaz!
    Statements like that are made to not only offend but to deter someone from fighting back for the harm that Heidi has caused them. You were making jabs and now trying to pretend that you weren’t!

    What, not enough bleeding hearts came out to support how terrible the anti-kimkins people are? I mean that is usually how that is to play out, right…..

    First- you are harsh in your statements and down right bitchy.

    Second- the anti-kimkins people come out to back up the person who was attacked- in this case Amy.

    Third- Some anti-kk bleeding hearts come out to say how certain anti-kkers are horrible, but not all – I mean look at them- and then chastise those who were defending the original victim.

    Fourth- You as the original “attacker” display astonishment over the reaction, state how you didn’t say this or that, claim to only want voices to be heard- which apparently is not true or you wouldn’t be trying to stifle those using their’s- and then roll over and play victim.

    Fifth- Those who then commented in Amy’s defense are suppose to defend their words and clarify how they were only reacting to your comments, then it all gets lost in the “ugly noise”.

    ::Rinse- Then repeat… method to be used in any type of debate that one must partake in where one is not able to defend their own comments with valid points or facts::

    I have seen this product many times on LCF and on blog comments. And I am not buying what you are sellin’ sistah.


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