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Picking Flowers March 30, 2008

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A few days ago when I read some post on LCF about picking weeds ( which is what they call the work they do to remove the links for the fraud site Kimkins) I started thinking how nice it would be to pick some flowers. Do you know who the flowers are? YOU. They all all of you who I KNOW are reading my blog that are still at KK. You read my blog, you e-mail me, you post on Philip site. So today I am going to reach out to each of you. Like I said YOU know WHO you are.

You know that feeling you have that is nagging at you? I bet you do. Many of you e-mail me about those feelings. Instead of burying those and going back daily to Kimkins. Maybe take a minute and LISTEN to YOURSELF. IN the truth of this…who do you think would lie to you….YOUR GUT? HEIDI DIAZ? I vote that you know deep down that you are not in the right place. I had those feelings everyday. But I buried them over and over. It made me paranoid and defensive. Gosh those are not great traits to have as a women who is trying to do good and get healthy. Paranoid and Defensive is NOT healthy. Never has been, never will be. And how many of you are emotional eaters? If you are like me and a emotioal eater…then drama , chaos, lying and fraud is not a calm place to change your eating habits.

Since I got banned from KK….I have had to really see some hard reality. The truth is many people will stay at Kimkins till the end. There are no magic words…No threats…No amount of lawsuits….TV news shows..the depo….the list goes on and on. For some people there is NOTHING that can be said to cause them to leave. So why keep trying ? That has been my question to myself this last week. I guess the only answer I have is….I am not ready to give up on anyone still at Kimkins. I see so many ladies there who are worth so much more then staying at Kimkins. So I am going to let the ducks work on the weeds and I am going to pick the flowers…Kimkins Ladies are my flowers…I want to show each of them there are other places to go.

I noticed something else. So many of the ladies I read about at KK fall off plan way too often. Some gain weight and lose it..over and over. I think of they had a new start with a calm place to build long lasting supportive friendships…..they may feel more in control in many areas…including there WOE.

Since I bloged about LauraLa and Singinglass last week….I wanted to do a little research on being on the front “watch us lose”. Seems like it is just more control and hey maybe even a legal issue. I am not sure the ladies Heidi has on the front page of her site are a great example. In a e-mail I will be posting this week…Jeannie writes that Singinglass has thinned hair and wears a hair piece. In a online interview SL sounds stupid and naive when she says. Hair-loss is no big deal. Then there is LauraLa….well she is not a great example to follow…in fact she is a perfect example of what is the problem with the diet. First let me say that I am happy I can post her own words. Due to the fact that it has become VERY clear that LauraLa has spent much time in e-mails / PM about me. Seems to have a complex because I mentioned lunch one day . She felt the need to let Heidi know that she was sure I was digging for info for the dreaded Lawsuit. Paranoid behavior must be a part of SNATT.

Re:Laura’s Journey 8 Months, 2 Weeks ago
Good Morning….On a better note, I have lost 4 more lbs…doing K/E. I have been under 600 calories each day! I am very snatty though. Very Very nausea! I hope everyone is well. Im doing K/E all the way to Onederland~!
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Re:Laura’s Journey 7 Months, 4 Weeks ago
Happy Humpday Gals…….I think this Season with my cheerleading is going to push me to my limits. I worked out with the girls for an hour and this morning I was spitting mad when my scale read 197. To make matters worse I only had eggs yesterday, plain no nothing
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Laura’s Journey 7 Months, 3 Weeks ago
I am keeping my eating light and mostly K/E alot of chicken and shrimp. maybe a cup of lettuce here and there.
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Laura’s Journey 7 Months, 1 Week ago
Hi everyone,I was in the hospital since last Thursday. I havent felt well for months now, and we have the answers now why. I didnt have asthma, I was having congestive heart failure. They diagnosed me with having cardiomyopathy. I am devastated at this moment and now sure what my future holds. I keep saying why me? how could this happen to me?? Dont they know my daughter needs me? I will try to check back , Im exhausted at the moment and my head is spinning in many different directions. I hope all is well for everyone else here. I see everyones ticker is moving right along. Please pray for me and hope I can beat this terrible heart disease. ………
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Did you read Her own words? They are scary and true. And she is the front page poster girl for Kimkins. What else can I say.
I wanted to also post a letter I received . I know this was not easy for this person to write and she was gracious enough to let me share it with all of you. The reason she did this was to help reach out and show you just who Heidi Diaz is. I know we think we know….but each day it seems like there is something else added to the story.
So please be respectful to Heather when you post comments. She stepped out of her comfort zone to try to help. Thank You Heather.

Okay, I’m just going to start writing about my experiences with KK. Please feel to edit it as you see fit. Include or delete whatever will best fit your goals for your blog.

My name is Heather and I am 37 years old. I have struggled with my weight for most of my married life. In 2002, my husband and I decided that our weights were out of control and started on Atkins. By 2003, I had lost 110 lbs. I still had more weight to lose to reach my goal, but not a lot. Then I had three stressful events all hit in one week and completely derailed my eating plan. I gained back about 50 pounds, but managed to stabilize again. I stayed at that weight for about a year. Then our son was born with a congenital heart defect and required open heart surgery in 2004. My husband and I stayed by his bedside for 5 weeks until we were able to finally take him home after his successful surgery. In that 5 weeks, our weights ballooned out of control. Stress eating became a daily practice in our family.

In January of 2007, my husband resumed the Atkins plan and started to lose weight at a pretty good rate. By summer, he hit the dreaded stall. He had been listening to Jimmy Moore’s podcast to motivate him and had listened to his interview with “Kimmer”. He was very intrigued by this eating plan and started talking to me quite a bit about it. We, obviously, were not aware that Mr. Moore later withdrew his support of the plan as my husband had stopped listening to that podcast and gone on to some other topics. I had not gone back to Atkins and had not gotten the ambition to rejoin the low carb lifestyle. Our son had his 2nd open heart surgery in late October of 2007. When that was successfully behind us, Brian decided to join Kimkins in hopes of breaking his stall and I was on the brink of starting back on Atkins, but hadn’t set a date of when I was going to start. Brian’s first week on Kimkins saw a loss of almost 10 lbs. He was very excited and this had me very intrigued. Soon after joining, Brian posted a question asking if anyone had any ideas on how to motivate me to join him on Kimkins. Soon a lady named “Tippy Toes” sent a PM to Brian offering me a free membership to Kimkins if Brian and I would agree to appear on the front page of the website. It was a new campaign called “Watch Us Lose” and the purpose (we were told) was to motivate people on the site of the potential weight loss they could have. The marketing idea was Kimmer’s and Tippy had suggested our names and profiles to her since we were new to the site and just starting on Kimkins. Mind you, I had never heard any controversy regarding Kimkins, as I had never researched the plan. I just felt that it was a modified Atkins plan that cut out some of the more fatty foods (which I didn’t care for any way). I felt that if this “Kimmer” was going to offer me a free membership and all she wanted me to do was submit my picture and weekly weight to her, that was no big deal. So we agreed and I became a member of Kimkins on November 5, 2007. There was never anything signed in writing or any sort of legal binding on our part.

The first couple of weeks on the site were wonderful for me. I had very poor self-esteem as I weighed in at 356 lbs., had a 3 year old boy at home still recovering from open heart surgery, and all of the health issues that come with being morbidly obese. Within minutes of joining the site, I had all sorts of people PMing me with welcomes, encouragement, etc. I felt validated as a person and the encouraging words that others shared truly inspired me. In my first 3 weeks on Kimkins, I lost 30 lbs. I felt great. My energy level was up and I felt so good about myself. I would post entries in my journal about how I was losing so well and others would post comments about how much I inspired them. I couldn’t believe that I was actually helping anyone. I am a person that feels best when helping others, so this truly fed into this need in me. Our pictures hadn’t gone onto the home page at this time and we were getting excited about them being on there.

Then, I started hearing members talking about a story that was going to be on TV about Kimkins. I was excited to watch this show. They talked about how “Christin” and “Deni” were going to be on. They talked about them like they were famous people. I had never heard of them, as I had only been a member of the site for a few weeks. I noticed their pictures in those little cameos on the home page with their success stories. I figured that they must be some ladies who lost a lot of weight and were going to be promoting the show. I tuned in anxious to hear about it. I was shocked to listen to these two ladies share how Kimkins caused major health issues for them. I thought, “How dare they accuse the diet that helped them lose all that weight for causing health problems. They were probably sick all that time and are just looking for someone to blame it on”. If Christin or Deni are reading this, please know that these thoughts only lasted a week and I sincerely apologize for ever questioning your integrity. I was uninformed. They talked about how this Kimmer woman was actually a woman named Heidi Diaz and that she had gained back all her weight. I thought, “I don’t care. Look, I’ve lost all this weight and I love these people that I get to chat with every day.” So, the next day our pictures were put on the website. I made statements in my journal about how I didn’t care who Kimmer was because her diet worked. Kimmer would PM me often to encourage me, cheer me on, and let me know how proud she was of all of the hard work I was doing. It made me feel really good about myself. Of course, now I look back on all of this and feel like a complete fool, but I’m sharing where my head was at, at this time.

Over the course of the next week or so, I started to hear people talking about other websites that were talking about Kimkins members. “Tippy” the lady who encouraged us to join the site, suddenly left. I was starting to have a strange feeling about all of this. One day, I decided to Google “Brian Heather Kimkins” to see if we were being talked about out on the web. My eyes were opened big time! I found other sites out there talking about us and how they couldn’t believe that we were helping make money for this Heidi Diaz. That we both seemed like nice people, so why would we help a fraud. The more I read, the more I realized what we had agreed to do, was not to “inspire members on the site” but to help bring in more money for this company. I really struggled for about two weeks with this. Why did I struggle? You would think that it would have been easy for me to just leave. But I was now down almost 40 pounds and the people I chatted with on the website were helping me so much. I just knew if I left, that there would be nothing for me and that I would give up and gain all the weight back.

Finally, I had the moment that changed things for me. Heidi e-mailed Brian and I and asked us if we would write affidavits for the lawsuit she was fighting supporting the diet and showing our success on the eating plan. We wrote up our experiences with our weight loss while on Kimkins and e-mailed them back to her. She said that she would mail us a hard copy soon for us to sign to make those documents “legally binding”. Those words stuck in my head for that whole week “LEGALLY BINDING”. Why would I want to be “bound” to this woman, in any way? I couldn’t support all that I was finding out about her. I couldn’t support what she had done. I couldn’t support what she was continuing to do. I was making this woman money and it was making me sick. So, Brian and I decided that we would not sign the documents when they arrived (they never did) and respectfully ask to be removed from the home page of Kimkins.

I still wanted to stay in touch with the members I had become friends with, so Brian and I (in the meantime) had started helping “Tippy Toes” (Jeannie Baitinger) start a different low carb support website. We knew that we didn’t want to be a part of Kimkins anymore, but we didn’t want to leave without a place to go. Jeannie had stayed in contact with us through e-mails after leaving Kimkins just to see how we were doing. It was actually our idea to start a website, and Jeannie agreed to fund the expenses. So, one week after we started working on our website, we asked Kimmer to remove our pictures from the home page. Within minutes Kimmer banned us both from the site. I understood her reasoning of banning me, since my membership was contingent on me being on the home page. Brian had paid for his membership though, so we requested a refund. It did come (which surprised us!).

After being banned from the site, we used a friend’s membership to see what people were saying about why we left. I was shocked as I read a post from Singinglass in which she wrote that Brian and Heather have been dear friends of Tippy’s for years and the three of them decided to leave the site together to start their own site. Her post seemed to infer that Kimmer booted us out because she found out about this. We had known Jeannie for about a month and were not trying to make any sort of website in competition with Kimkins. We just wanted a site where we could go, invite our friends to join us, and continue to support one another. There will be no promotions or endorsements of where we are now. This post is simply written to help everyone see the influence that Heidi Diaz, and her associates, seem to hold over the members there. I am an intelligent woman with a mind of my own. Yet I stuck my head in the sand because someone was constantly telling me how great I was doing with my weight loss.

And in case you are wondering – Yes, I continued doing Kimkins for about a month after leaving the site. Never had any health issues until one night. I was carrying my son (still post-op from his surgery) down the stairs to bed when I became suddenly light-headed, dizzy, and nauseous. I almost dropped my sleeping son and knew, right then, that I had to change my eating plan. I started Atkins the next day and am still on that eating plan today. I have now lost 75 lbs. and still have over 100 lbs. left to lose. I know that the weight won’t leave me as quickly as it did on Kimkins, but I know that I will have my health when I am at goal. Today, my weight sits at 280.

Any time I am reminded of the month I spent on that home page, I am filled with remorse. I bought in to a woman who constantly showered me with compliments while lining her pockets with ill-gotten money. For anyone who saw my pictures and joined that site because of me, I am sorry. If you are currently on the “Watch Me Lose” page, you should know that you are being used. Whether you realize it, or not, you are supporting a fraud. By being there, you are using your image to advertise a diet that is extremely dangerous. I have nothing to gain by sharing this except to possibly help others. Amy will attest to the fact that I am not a person who talks badly of others. I do not gossip or backbite. What I WILL do here though, is share the truth.

Amy, I hope that this helps you in revealing the ugliness of Kimkins. Thank you for asking me to share my story.

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25 Responses to “Picking Flowers”

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  3. vernswifevickie Says:

    Amy, thank you for sharing Heather and Brian’s story.

    Heather, thank you for having the courage and integrity to do the right thing in not supporting Heidi Diaz. And thank you for your willingness to share your story.

  4. mrsmenopausal Says:

    Great post, AmyB! I often wondered what the story was about Heather and Brian and KK’s. Thanks for sharing that, and thank you Heather for having the courage to step away from something you knew was wrong, despite your fears.
    My blog: Weighing The Facts

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  6. amyb1569 Says:

    Heather ,
    You were really brave to put yourself out here like this. But in the end you are helping so many people.
    I wanted to add…I have NEVER heard Heather say one nasty , mean word or gossip about anyone. So for her to feel so strongly about this…I know it is hurting her.
    So thank you. I hope this helps all of us to start to heal.

  7. bluesuederebel Says:

    Amy, you know how I feel about you. Again, you have shared your thoughts with us. You are so talented in the way you took the deed of “pulling weeds” and turned it into something beautiful like “picking flowers.”

    Thank you, Heather, for sharing your story here. I left a message here about some of the health issues I had, but reading about your dizziness, I realize that’s one I forgot to mention. I, too, was dizzy and lightheaded. And. one very important health issue I forgot to share is that I had some type of anxiety. I never felt like I could take a deep breath. Sometimes, it seemed like I was gulping for air like a fish out of water. Since, going off of the strict KK’s plan, I no longer have these problems.

    Again, thank you Amy and Heather for sharing with others the dangers of KK’s.

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  11. awakened1 Says:

    Amy,
    this is a beautiful post ..a wonderful expression of who you really are beneath all the anger and pain that KK brings out of us all.

    Heather,
    your letter/testimony is a heartfelt honest journey that deserves to be told. Thank-you for sharing it. I’m so sorry that you too were a victim of Heidi’s, and I’m also sorry that I never got to know you.
    and no.. I’m not famous. 😉 I’m just another woman just like you who is ashamed to have my name and face associated all over the web with having been conned and fooled by this diet.

  12. jeanniebaitinger Says:

    Heather, I too thank you for putting this out there. And I am very sorry I recruited you and Brian to the front page of KK. But, good things came from it after all! I agree that KK had the nicest and most supportive folks. And so many of them are coming to our website now which is such a blessing. I thank you and Brian so very much for all the hard work you have done and continue to do at Camp. Your progress pics are so stunning! I always think to myself when I see them how sorry Kimmer must be to have lost you. No photo shop editing there! No need! You look great! And I am so proud of you. I am just as proud that you told your KK story here. And I am equally proud of the support you show others every single day. Most importantly, I am proud to be your friend. Hugs.

  13. thetruthinhiding Says:

    You understand how Heidi needs the front page poster people now, and you understand how she will say anything to keep them in the fold and keep them happy. Without them or her Russian brides she can’t bring in new dollars.

    One of the biggest truths exposed here is how persuasive and *nice* Heidi can be in private conversation when it suits her goals, contrasted with her self serving, narcissistic, evil core. You don’t have to take anyones word for it. The documented proof is out there and anyone still continuing to inhale the smoke she is blowing up your a$$es is quickly running out of plausible excuses for hanging around. People that are taking pride in being loyal to Heidi to the end should expect repercussions, and that is why I think Laura was fair game here, IMAO.

  14. katinsac Says:

    Heather, thank you so much for sharing your story. It is not unlike many other over there. I’m glad you and Brian are continuing your weight loss and support at the Camp. I also hope you son is better now. Hopefully, many more over on the KK site will see your and Amy’s stories and move on to a better eating plan before they suffer damage that cannot be reversed. Best of luck.

  15. 2big4mysize Says:

    I hope your flowers fill all the vases and empty out the kimpire.

    thanks for reaching out

  16. simpleannie Says:

    This is so sad, people who devote their lives to bring someone else down. And to degrade other wonderful people along the way, have you no heart? OMG And have teamed up with others to “BRING HEIDI DOWN” haven’t you got a family that could use your attention more, get a hobby or a job that you enjoy. And you will gain what?
    “Since I bloged about LauraLa and Singinglass last week….I wanted to do a little research on being on the front “watch us lose”. Seems like it is just more control and hey maybe even a legal issue. I am not sure the ladies Heidi has on the front page of her site are a great example. In a e-mail I will be posting this week…Jeannie writes that Singinglass has thinned hair and wears a hair piece. In a online interview SL sounds stupid and naive when she says. Hair-loss is no big deal. Then there is LauraLa….well she is not a great example to follow…in fact she is a perfect example of what is the problem with the diet. First let me say that I am happy I can post her own words. Due to the fact that it has become VERY clear that LauraLa has spent much time in e-mails / PM about me. Seems to have a complex because I mentioned lunch one day . She felt the need to let Heidi know that she was sure I was digging for info for the dreaded Lawsuit. Paranoid behavior must be a part of SNATT.”
    This is a quote from one of your posts, shame on you this so childish. No I didn’t read all of your threads, posts or whatevers, this was enough for me to say “If I ever leave the Kimkins community, I will never come here” I am a much better person than that.

  17. amyb1569 Says:

    Simpleannie…
    Everyone has a opinion and I respect your right to post that here. I 100% disagree. That is the big difference between here and KK. You CAN voice your opinion here vs at KK.. I agree if you leave KK ..I am not the right person for you to turn to…I am total opposite of Heidi. I believe in the truth and being blunt. Not spreading guilt filled lies. It could be too much of a shock for some to go from So pro Heidi and KK to the Truth KK and anti fraud.

  18. simpleannie Says:

    And Amy, what are you gaining by haveing this blog? You were such a nice person and inspiration to so many, I had no idea that this person was inside. You have a beautiful family, give them your extra time now, don’t do this and be bitter. I always enjoyed your journal and advice, I just don’t understand it I guess, the school girl stuff of “she pissed me off and made me mad, she’s gonna get it” type of attitude, be the bigger person in this and let her dig her own hole if it is meant to be.

  19. amyb1569 Says:

    Simpleannie…
    Once again you are free to have your feelings and I have no porbelm with you posting them here on my blog. I guess maybe some of my blogs may of been or seemed bring Heidi down. But as I have said the past few days…I am reaching out and enjoyong the fact that many KK people have left in the past few days. The more flowers the better.
    I do have a beautiful family , thank you . I am a active mom and wife. I can assure everyone that I do not spend hrs away from my family to do anything with heidi or anti KK issues.
    I know you may not agree…and that is okay. But for me this is not school girl stuff. This is MY NAME and MY SON”S name being dragged through the mud. Do you have any idea how it makes me feel that anyone especially Heidi and the ladies on the front page who reprensent her said my son was not real. That I made him and or his medical issues up, I bet you do not. If you did you might understand..but maybe not. And that is okay

  20. vatefairefoutrelol Says:

    Get a life Amy. You were always a trouble maker at Kimkins.com. You constantly asked questions to aggravate Kimmer and its members. You know why you were banned both times. Stop playing the SAHM and Sick Child card over and over again. BORING! You should spend less time online AND CONCENTRATE MORE ON SPENDING TIME WITH YOUR FAMILY. YOU ARE NOT SETTING A GOOD EXAMPLE FOR YOUR KIDS. Think about this. Teach your kids to forgive and forget not to get even! Move on because life is so short to be so miserable all the time.

  21. amyb1569 Says:

    Author : vatefairefoutrelol (IP: 68.118.178.219 , 68-118-178-219.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com)
    E-mail : civets37917@mypacks.net
    Vatefairefoutrelol…..Tell Heidi I said Hello.

  22. vatefairefoutrelol Says:

    Who is Heidi? Your imaginary friend?

  23. 2big4mysize Says:

    looks like flower picking isn’t an approved kimkins.con activity Amy.

    Hey SimpleAnnie and vatefairfoutrelol I need to ask what does coming on Amy’s blog and chastising her for reaching out to folk inside kimkins.con say about y’all?

    Couldn’t you put your time to a better purpose like helping to pick flowers using the methods you are advocating?

    Since we all know the kimkins diet is nutrtionally bankrupt and kimmer admitted under oath she deceived members with her fake stories and fake success pics to take their money using fradulant advertising practices why are you defending her site acting, as the manners police, and being mean to somebody who finally realized Kimmer was harming her both physically and emotionally?

    in light of those admissions by Kimmer why are y’all still helping her? where are your efforts to assist in getting money back for those defrauded and to help those following her dangerous nutrtionally bankrupt plan stop before they do permanent danger to themselves all because they wanted to shed their excess weight?

  24. simpleannie Says:

    2big4mysize, it was one of Amy’s flowers that posted this blog address on Kimkins and suggested people go there and check it out. Otherwise I would have never known it existed, because when I asked about Amy, no one would tell me. I said I wouldn’t post anymore, but I did want to let you know how this blog was brought to mine and everyone elses attention. And I came here because I thought Amy was a great person, not to bash or to support Kimmer and her bunch. But I guess it was just a shock, I guess you just need to get it out, like in a diary, and that is ok. But the comments made back to me were terrible as well, and shows the type of people that are here. Good luck to all of you, and to you Amy. I know you have been hurt, and I too would be upset if it were me and my family, I hope it never happens to me, but I guess I am not a blogger, so would never start a blog to aire it to the public. Would probly just not go there anymore. Yes, I did try to put myself in your shoes, and think of what I would do if it were me.

  25. honeybeesblog Says:

    Quote –
    vatefairefoutrelol Says: April 2, 2008 at 4:08 pm

    “Who is Heidi? Your imaginary friend?”

    HoneyBee – No, it is you with a screen name like that!
    I say this because- If you break down the screen name to the following:
    va te faire foutre lol:

    va te faire foutre
    It is a French expletive of “go “f*** yourself”

    and of course the lol
    is the “laugh out loud”

    Thanks Heidi for the laugh and I plan on laughing a lot more!
    Cheers!


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